Bug in SIMPOL Personal V. 1.75

[Giancarlo Cavadini]

Hello Neil, I have to report the following bug in SIMPOL Personal V. 1.75: if I try to use the menu “Copy” or “Ctrl+C” SIMPOL Personal is “terminated” instantly with no chance to save the job done. Greetings. Giancarlo

[JD Kromkowski]

As I understand it the menu copy and/or control c is not actual hooked up
to anything. It is supposed to copy a RECORD. If you are in a field and
have selected something, control c (or left mouse copy) works to copy
selection to clipboard as it normally would. (presuming you are using
windows.)

JDK

[Giancarlo Cavadini]

Yes, I'm using windows 7 32bit.
Both with nothing selected (only the record is selected without any text
in a field) that with the selection of a text in a field, if I use the
menu Edit –> Copy (or Ctrl+c) SIMPOL Personal is killed.
Giancarlo

[Michael]

On 16/10/2013 04:38, Giancarlo wrote:
> Yes, I'm using windows 7 32bit.
> Both with nothing selected (only the record is selected without any text
> in a field) that with the selection of a text in a field, if I use the
> menu Edit –> Copy (or Ctrl+c) SIMPOL Personal is killed.
> Giancarlo
>

Thank you for the bug report, this problem is fixed in the next release of SIMPOL Personal. However, the Paste and Cut are not yet
implemented. In part, this is because to work the way the original worked, records are placed on the clipboard in the format of:
<field><tab><field><tab>…<field><crlf> which means that any embedded crlfs in text fields will mess it up. If you are pasting
into a text document, then that doesn't probably matter, but pasting into a database will cause you to create multiple records
with inappropriate content (which also happened in Superbase). We are thinking about the best way to handle this (though the paste
solution won't help if you are pasting into some other program, just into SIMPOL Personal. Also, please note that in SIMPOL
Personal there is no way to currently respect any field level constant or calculation requirements, so these would not get carried
out.

Ciao, Neil

[Giancarlo Cavadini]

Thanks Neil,
for me is Ok that the Paste and Cut are not implemented. But it is
important to avoid SIMPOL Personal is killed unexpectedly without ability
to save.
Giancarlo

Neil Robinson wrote:

> On 16/10/2013 04:38, Giancarlo wrote:
>> Yes, I'm using windows 7 32bit.
>> Both with nothing selected (only the record is selected without any text
>> in a field) that with the selection of a text in a field, if I use the
>> menu Edit –> Copy (or Ctrl+c) SIMPOL Personal is killed.
>> Giancarlo
>>

> Thank you for the bug report, this problem is fixed in the next release of
SIMPOL Personal. However, the Paste and Cut are not yet
> implemented. In part, this is because to work the way the original worked,
records are placed on the clipboard in the format of:
> <field><tab><field><tab>…<field><crlf> which means that any embedded crlfs
in text fields will mess it up. If you are pasting
> into a text document, then that doesn't probably matter, but pasting into a
database will cause you to create multiple records
> with inappropriate content (which also happened in Superbase). We are
thinking about the best way to handle this (though the paste
> solution won't help if you are pasting into some other program, just into
SIMPOL Personal. Also, please note that in SIMPOL
> Personal there is no way to currently respect any field level constant or
calculation requirements, so these would not get carried
> out.

> Ciao, Neil

[Michael]

On 17/10/2013 09:39, Giancarlo wrote:
> Thanks Neil,
> for me is Ok that the Paste and Cut are not implemented. But it is
> important to avoid SIMPOL Personal is killed unexpectedly without ability
> to save.

If there is a runtime syntax error, the program crashes. There is no way to save things at the last minute. That is why it is very
important to do as much testing as possible. This feature slipped into the past release but was apparently not tested.

There should be very few situations where you have any unsaved data in SIMPOL Personal and it crashes.

Ciao, Neil

> Giancarlo
>
> Neil Robinson wrote:
>
>> On 16/10/2013 04:38, Giancarlo wrote:
>>> Yes, I'm using windows 7 32bit.
>>> Both with nothing selected (only the record is selected without any text
>>> in a field) that with the selection of a text in a field, if I use the
>>> menu Edit –> Copy (or Ctrl+c) SIMPOL Personal is killed.
>>> Giancarlo
>>>
>
>> Thank you for the bug report, this problem is fixed in the next release of
> SIMPOL Personal. However, the Paste and Cut are not yet
>> implemented. In part, this is because to work the way the original worked,
> records are placed on the clipboard in the format of:
>> <field><tab><field><tab>…<field><crlf> which means that any embedded crlfs
> in text fields will mess it up. If you are pasting
>> into a text document, then that doesn't probably matter, but pasting into a
> database will cause you to create multiple records
>> with inappropriate content (which also happened in Superbase). We are
> thinking about the best way to handle this (though the paste
>> solution won't help if you are pasting into some other program, just into
> SIMPOL Personal. Also, please note that in SIMPOL
>> Personal there is no way to currently respect any field level constant or
> calculation requirements, so these would not get carried
>> out.
>
>> Ciao, Neil
>
>
>

[Giancarlo Cavadini]

Neil Robinson wrote:

> On 17/10/2013 09:39, Giancarlo wrote:
>> Thanks Neil,
>> for me is Ok that the Paste and Cut are not implemented. But it is
>> important to avoid SIMPOL Personal is killed unexpectedly without ability
>> to save.

> If there is a runtime syntax error, the program crashes. There is no way to
save things at the last minute. That is why it is very
> important to do as much testing as possible. This feature slipped into the
past release but was apparently not tested.

I know, I just want to report the bug to fix it for the next release.

> There should be very few situations where you have any unsaved data in
SIMPOL Personal and it crashes.

I found a similar situation in the menu View –> Record (Ctrl+R). Please
see if you can correct it for the next release.

> Ciao, Neil

Note: I'm not angry with you if a crash happens to me while been
programming. I just want to report to fix it in the next release.
I do not know if it is right to report bugs of SIMPOL Personal in the
"Programming" Blog. Would you rather have notify you in any other way?

Cordiali saluti
Giancarlo

>> Giancarlo
>>
>> Neil Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/10/2013 04:38, Giancarlo wrote:
>>>> Yes, I'm using windows 7 32bit.
>>>> Both with nothing selected (only the record is selected without any text
>>>> in a field) that with the selection of a text in a field, if I use the
>>>> menu Edit –> Copy (or Ctrl+c) SIMPOL Personal is killed.
>>>> Giancarlo
>>>>
>>
>>> Thank you for the bug report, this problem is fixed in the next release of
>> SIMPOL Personal. However, the Paste and Cut are not yet
>>> implemented. In part, this is because to work the way the original worked,
>> records are placed on the clipboard in the format of:
>>> <field><tab><field><tab>…<field><crlf> which means that any embedded
crlfs
>> in text fields will mess it up. If you are pasting
>>> into a text document, then that doesn't probably matter, but pasting into
a
>> database will cause you to create multiple records
>>> with inappropriate content (which also happened in Superbase). We are
>> thinking about the best way to handle this (though the paste
>>> solution won't help if you are pasting into some other program, just into
>> SIMPOL Personal. Also, please note that in SIMPOL
>>> Personal there is no way to currently respect any field level constant or
>> calculation requirements, so these would not get carried
>>> out.
>>
>>> Ciao, Neil
>>
>>
>>

[Michael]

On 19/10/2013 05:26, Giancarlo wrote:
> Neil Robinson wrote:
>
>> On 17/10/2013 09:39, Giancarlo wrote:
>>> Thanks Neil,
>>> for me is Ok that the Paste and Cut are not implemented. But it is
>>> important to avoid SIMPOL Personal is killed unexpectedly without ability
>>> to save.
>
>> If there is a runtime syntax error, the program crashes. There is no way to
> save things at the last minute. That is why it is very
>> important to do as much testing as possible. This feature slipped into the
> past release but was apparently not tested.
>
> I know, I just want to report the bug to fix it for the next release.
>
>> There should be very few situations where you have any unsaved data in
> SIMPOL Personal and it crashes.
>
> I found a similar situation in the menu View –> Record (Ctrl+R). Please
> see if you can correct it for the next release.
>
>> Ciao, Neil
>
> Note: I'm not angry with you if a crash happens to me while been
> programming. I just want to report to fix it in the next release.
> I do not know if it is right to report bugs of SIMPOL Personal in the
> "Programming" Blog. Would you rather have notify you in any other way?

That is no problem. I am aware of the Ctrl+R problem and that has already been corrected as far as I know.

Ciao, Neil

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